Fun With Bob and Jayne: an honest look at Advanced Marketing Concepts and EPX180
Thursday, September 4, 2014
No More Fun With Bob and Jayne... Now It's Just EPX and Me!
I'm sort of blog-hopping here. Since May I have tried to talk honestly about belonging to Advanced Marketing Concepts (AMC), which was so UNadvanced that the experience was trying at best and ridiculous at worst. I honestly don't think the whole thing was a scam, but I never made any money.
In fact, I decided in early July to join EPXOne80 after I heard they were starting a new business model of allowing distributors to purchase customers on auto-ship. The wording since then has changed to pre-paying for guaranteed marketing of customers on auto-ship, since you can't buy people... but the concept remains the same. Pay $45, wait a little while, and PRESTO there is a customer in your downline. It's a great concept and it can make a lot of people a LOT of money (more about that later) so I jumped in.
I knew I had done a good thing when I got an email about a week later (maybe less) saying AMC was closing up shop and becoming a big old branch of EPX. What a surprise! No really, I was quite surprised.
So my blog, "Fun With Bob and Jayne" has run its course. Because I had already joined EPX without Bob and Jayne Guzzetti I won't be in that big old AMC branch. I am on the Bottom Line Team (BLT) which just happens to be the same team the Guzzetti's joined with their bazillion members, but it was just coincidence and we won't be very closely related on this Team Tree. So Goodbye, Jayne. Goodbye, Bob. I bet you're really nice people and some day we may even meet in person.
What many many people have recognized in EPX is that this company is poised to EXPLODE. I know only a few of the details but here's what I've got:
1. You can pre-pay for marketing of a customer for your downline. (Trivita did this several years ago and there are many people who made a FORTUNE with that model... and many of them are in EPX now!)
2. A brand new, very skilled and experienced senior management team has just taken control with the original founder still very much active and alive in the company management. It is a good sign when a founder can recognize that he needs management help with the growth he is experiencing and/or envisioning. A true TEAM PLAYER.
3. The company has been purchased by a publicly held company. Great! Big money. But nobody knows who it is yet, and if they know they're not saying. Word should be out any day now.
4. EPX has many different programs - EPXBody, EPXOne80, EPXTrader... and if you are involved with any of it you can get paid commissions from any other part of it. That's right, you don't have to be involved with fitness at all to get commissions if your downline joins EPXBody and starts buying supplements. Most (maybe all?) other companies will require that you be enrolled in a particular program before getting paid from that program.
5. EPX guarantees your income! That's right. If you follow their program for six months and aren't making $1000/month after six months, they will give you your money back. That's some commitment.
6. With the EPXBody 90 Day Challenge, you get PAID PER POUND you lose. I'm all in! After two weeks I have lost nearly 15 pounds. My goal is 30. More updates on this to come!
So goodbye Georgia folks... hello Utah folks!
Here's the new blog on EPXOne80
Thursday, August 28, 2014
I need patience and I need it NOW!
Things
have been fast and furious around the world of EPX. Or rather, the phone calls have been fast and
furious. The weekly team call has
focused on how great the new executive team is, how we will be eligible to buy
stock in the publicly held company that has bought EPX, and WOW we are in the
right place at the right time!
But
there is just not… any information yet.
Who is this magic big company? I
don’t know. But we’ll find out soon.
Also…
where are those auto-ship customers I paid for?
They aren’t in my back office yet.
Word has it through phone calls and some emails that they are starting
to show up in peoples’ downlines; that has yet to be the case with me (and I
just checked before writing this). It is
frustrating, but this is new; it hasn’t been done before; the website is being
completely redone. IT WILL BE GOOD. And I believe that NOW is the time to be in
EPX! Once those “purchased” customers
start filling up the matrices, people will start making a lot of money.
I
can’t wait!!
In
the meantime, I tried building my own landing page… check it out:
www.adventureandwealth.com
www.adventureandwealth.com
And
I have lost nearly 15 pounds in two weeks on the EPXBody 90 day challenge.
More
about that soon.
Labels:
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EPXBody,
EPXOne80,
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Time,
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Tuesday, August 19, 2014
The Wacky World of EPX and How AMC Fits In
Another Team Call last night with Shelly and Sandy … Two guest speakers: Larry Oxenham of Lazy Wealth and AMC fame,
and a guy named Kareem that I’m sorry to say I couldn’t hear too well. I did get that he lost 40 lbs with the EPX90
challenge, and had just competed in his first body building competition over
the weekend. That’s quite lovely but I’m
52 and am never, EVER competing in a body building competition, so I really
cared more about what Larry had to say.
There are two major things I gleaned from the call: First, EPX has been acquired by a publicly
held, giant company. No one can say what
that company is yet, although I did do some sleuthing (couldn’t find a
thing). That should be around the end of
this month when the news goes public. It
sounds like we, as distributors, will be eligible to earn stock in the big
magic company! I like stock. (Especially stock that pays dividends.) The Second thing is that the team that has
been brought together is apparently a dream team of leaders without the big
egos. No Ken Lays or Bernie Madoffs
here. Larry is convinced they could lead
any sort of company anywhere in the world and that the lineup includes people
who will be able to initiate a global rollout with no glitches, manage
explosive growth, and continue to strive for improvement in products and
marketing. The names of the new
management team were being thrown around so fast I couldn’t google them fast
enough. The new head (CEO?), Zann
Horlacher, is somebody we have “met” before on the Team Call. Other names I could wrap my head around
included Bert Green (try googling Bert Green… yes, there are a thousand). The other names were all first names said
very quickly. Why? I don’t think Shellee and Larry were dropping
names in the traditional sense… I think maybe we’re not supposed to know quite
who they are yet until that big acquisition by the big giant magic company is revealed. At least, that’s what I hope. If not, they sure do talk fast and I am
having trouble keeping up.
So the bottom line is that BIG growth is about to happen:
new website, new ownership and management, and those “in the know” are very very excited about it. Yes, there are a few growing pains at the
moment since the newly acquired auto-ship customers are being added manually to
distributor’s downlines. (I am still
waiting for mine, but I only check about 5 times a day now instead of 20.)
How does AMC fit in to all of this? Except for being its own branch or leg or
whatever, and being under the very able and good guy Larry Oxenham, I’m not
sure. Bob and Jayne were at the same
meeting that the Larry and Shellee attended but Jayne hasn’t had much to say
via email. (Mostly just, “Please be
patient. Hang on!”)
I am being patient (for me, anyway). I am hanging on! This is going to be quite a ride! If you are fond of rollercoasters, or if you’ve
ever wondered if you will EVER have that magic “timing” thing, THIS IS IT. I don’t think it will get much clearer than
that.
Friday, August 15, 2014
Misadventures and Challenges
Okay, so it has been since
July 9th – 37 days – since I paid $45 each for two customers on
auto-ship to be marketed into the VIPDeals program and placed in my
matrix. So far, NOTHING. I have heard from one of my downliners that
he’s getting antsy. I emailed Stan, my
upline man and asked him: “What have you
heard? What do you know?” And he didn’t know anything, hadn’t heard
anything, still waiting for his customers to show up, etc. So the newbie marketer in me starts to
scream, “Have I been swindled?!” And I’m
sure the answer is NO. I just need to
wait awhile longer. Estimates of when
things will happen are just WAGs when something new is being tried… and this is
indeed new! The call center/s, the
software, the integration of things unimaginable have to be worked out. I am confident that they WILL be worked out,
but would like to be MUCH sooner than later.
One reason I am not frothing
at the mouth is that I know this week was the Team Leader’s meeting in Las
Vegas. This is an excerpt of an email from
Larry Oxenham who is/was an upliner of
my in AMC but not with my current EPX position.
However, if AMC ever (?!) gets the membership transfer over to EPX, I
will be on the same team twice and have different upliners, to include the
illustrious Larry O. Here is what he has
to say:
I traveled to Las Vegas to meet the new management team for EPX
and, while we can't release all the great information, there are some parts
that were so special they are meaningful to all of us.
First, the reason there is a new management team is the program founder, Dan, recognized his strength is getting a program off the ground and building teams (he has 24 years' experience) but not managing the growth. So he reached out to several very experienced people, they spent months reviewing EPX (and more than 70 other companies worldwide in the question for an acquisition), and chose EPX because they believed the model made sense.
They then assembled their team of genuine heavyweights - one sold his company for more than $500 million, another is the former head of a known, long running network company, another a former senior exec with FedEx, another a Wall Street Financial expert, another sold a chain of restaurants, and, well, you get the picture; they are NOT picking up a bunch of mlm recruiters with no management experience. The team also includes experts in various countries to facilitate international growth.
However, several of the management team are very experienced and known mlm veterans who have built huge success in the US and overseas. One for example, was responsible for $595 million of his company's $695 million production.
In other words, this is a management team with strength, experience and an inside feel. Equally importantly, they have involved a public company to provide deep pockets and have as clear a mission statement as any company I have ever seen. And they have already filled important posts including IT, customer service management, national and international marketing.
BUT THEY ALSO HAVE THEIR HEADS SCREWED ON STRAIGHT!
What do I mean by this? There are no egos fighting to be first in line, or let you know how smart they are. Each, through introduction, talked a little about his/her road to success and how they firmly believe providing complete service to customers and distributors is the key to success.
The new president, Zan, has a wealth of experience but a belief in service, integrity and delivering on promises made.
We had lunch and dinner together and attended a show together and, if you did not know beforehand, you would not have been able to tell who had the most money or the top position.
Prior to the event they told us we would see the Vegas version of Jersey Boys so I asked if I could bring my 13 year old (incredibly good looking and smart) granddaughter, Ava - huge Jersey Boys fan - and they said yes.
They not only invited her but included her in our meals and even one of the meetings (Which was a little like a Masters Degree in marketing so a little over her head). By the time the two days ended she knew everyone, had been included in conversations and discussions, and was so much a part of the group she got hugs from everyone. She was even invited to the next meeting ...
The point? A quality endeavor has to begin with quality people. I have seen mlm's implode because the ego of the Founder wasn't capable of recognizing the need for professional help as you grow. This team appears to have every element - intellect, experience, education, motivation and direction - needed to excel.
There are now three legs to EPX - The public company, the marketing entity and EPX - with each filling a special need.
If you were to design a potentially successful entity you would want deep pockets, deep experience, education, motivation and a thorough understanding of what the mission is.
Details will be released in coming weeks - public companies have strict rules about what can and cannot be said and when - but I can tell you now the changes you will see will make so much sense you will be very pleased, the accessibility and assistance from the management team will be very visible and a couple of very unique advantages mean some members are going to get very wealthy from a benefit outside recruiting.
I have never been a traditional mlm marketer - meetings, etc. - mainly because there was never anything to believe in. EPX has individual products that, by themselves, have been and are 100 million dollar products with more being developed by a Nobel Prize winning doctor; EPX has a management team unsurpassed; EPX has an opportunity, especially with the customer acquisition model (this will be expanded), that means all of us have a great opportunity ahead.
One final note: when asked the real secret to long term success, the man who built the $595 million team, said, "Followup". He said members who want to succeed will followup with customers they purchase to offer them the opportunity. It's that simple and a good lesson we have been 'preaching' for a long time.
There is much more to come but all those of you who enrolled should look forward to a very good future with EPX.
First, the reason there is a new management team is the program founder, Dan, recognized his strength is getting a program off the ground and building teams (he has 24 years' experience) but not managing the growth. So he reached out to several very experienced people, they spent months reviewing EPX (and more than 70 other companies worldwide in the question for an acquisition), and chose EPX because they believed the model made sense.
They then assembled their team of genuine heavyweights - one sold his company for more than $500 million, another is the former head of a known, long running network company, another a former senior exec with FedEx, another a Wall Street Financial expert, another sold a chain of restaurants, and, well, you get the picture; they are NOT picking up a bunch of mlm recruiters with no management experience. The team also includes experts in various countries to facilitate international growth.
However, several of the management team are very experienced and known mlm veterans who have built huge success in the US and overseas. One for example, was responsible for $595 million of his company's $695 million production.
In other words, this is a management team with strength, experience and an inside feel. Equally importantly, they have involved a public company to provide deep pockets and have as clear a mission statement as any company I have ever seen. And they have already filled important posts including IT, customer service management, national and international marketing.
BUT THEY ALSO HAVE THEIR HEADS SCREWED ON STRAIGHT!
What do I mean by this? There are no egos fighting to be first in line, or let you know how smart they are. Each, through introduction, talked a little about his/her road to success and how they firmly believe providing complete service to customers and distributors is the key to success.
The new president, Zan, has a wealth of experience but a belief in service, integrity and delivering on promises made.
We had lunch and dinner together and attended a show together and, if you did not know beforehand, you would not have been able to tell who had the most money or the top position.
Prior to the event they told us we would see the Vegas version of Jersey Boys so I asked if I could bring my 13 year old (incredibly good looking and smart) granddaughter, Ava - huge Jersey Boys fan - and they said yes.
They not only invited her but included her in our meals and even one of the meetings (Which was a little like a Masters Degree in marketing so a little over her head). By the time the two days ended she knew everyone, had been included in conversations and discussions, and was so much a part of the group she got hugs from everyone. She was even invited to the next meeting ...
The point? A quality endeavor has to begin with quality people. I have seen mlm's implode because the ego of the Founder wasn't capable of recognizing the need for professional help as you grow. This team appears to have every element - intellect, experience, education, motivation and direction - needed to excel.
There are now three legs to EPX - The public company, the marketing entity and EPX - with each filling a special need.
If you were to design a potentially successful entity you would want deep pockets, deep experience, education, motivation and a thorough understanding of what the mission is.
Details will be released in coming weeks - public companies have strict rules about what can and cannot be said and when - but I can tell you now the changes you will see will make so much sense you will be very pleased, the accessibility and assistance from the management team will be very visible and a couple of very unique advantages mean some members are going to get very wealthy from a benefit outside recruiting.
I have never been a traditional mlm marketer - meetings, etc. - mainly because there was never anything to believe in. EPX has individual products that, by themselves, have been and are 100 million dollar products with more being developed by a Nobel Prize winning doctor; EPX has a management team unsurpassed; EPX has an opportunity, especially with the customer acquisition model (this will be expanded), that means all of us have a great opportunity ahead.
One final note: when asked the real secret to long term success, the man who built the $595 million team, said, "Followup". He said members who want to succeed will followup with customers they purchase to offer them the opportunity. It's that simple and a good lesson we have been 'preaching' for a long time.
There is much more to come but all those of you who enrolled should look forward to a very good future with EPX.
And there you have it. I am
looking forward to a very good future with EPX!
Next time I will talk about the EPX 90day fitness challenge, which I
started today. Let’s just say, the start
isn’t so pretty.
Monday, August 11, 2014
Jayne is Still Excited and SO AM I.
Update today from Jayne Guzzetti. Here is part of it (I deleted the duplicated and uninteresting stuff):
First of all, and always foremost, we will not take any of you into a business that doesn't have it together. Appears not to... or whatever. We don't take chances! So that has been the first hold-up. EPX has come up with a whole new program. Yes, absolutely FANTASTIC! Out of this world!!!!!!! But we wanted to make sure they had everything in place and that we felt totally comfortable about everything. We do!!!!!!! Just needed some time to be sure and we are!!!!!!!
Taking a 3-wide pay plan and trying to put it into a 4-wide pay plan has been a huge challenge in itself.
Then, AMC's pay plan and EPX's pay plan are completely different. I liken it to taking the rules of Bridge and trying to make them work in a game of Chess. Both pay plans have completely different ways to "win," as in "earn the most money!" So if I had taken AMC's pay plan and just thrown it in to EPX's, it wouldn't have been right for YOU!
We're almost finished with the set-up, and expect everything will go to EPX tomorrow or Wednesday.
Added to all of that, we had a slew of other business and personal matters hit us at the same time. To say we are totally stressed is an understatement.
We're so sorry for the delay but all will be great starting next week! With the team we have in place and all the members who have already purchased 10, 20, 50, 100, and even over 200 member/customers, we're sure to explode!!!!!!!
I'll have marketing ideas for you next week, update you on member/customer purchases, and much more!
Thank you for hanging in there! We're so excited and totally committed to YOU and EPX!!!!!!!
Jayne Guzzetti
My take on this: It must be nearly impossible to make the 3x3 matrix fit into a 4x10 matrix. The "slew of other business and personal matters" are worrying and my heart and knidest thoughts go out to Bob and Jayne. And the best news: marketing ideas next week (my money is on postcards!), and they are very excited about EPX.
I am convinced that now is the right time and EPX180 is the right place. If you're not there with me, hurry on up!
Saturday, August 9, 2014
More exciting news
EPX has brought in a new executive team to help steer the company in this time of major growth. Two guys whose names I don't remember... But I am sure I'll be hearing them again. No word from Jayne this week. I know she is getting ready for the EPX Leaders meeting in Las Vegas this coming week.
The big news is that the customers we have acquired (no longer using the term "buying" since you can't BUY a person) started showing up in our matrices yesterday. I must have logged in twenty times! Mine aren't there yet but they will be in a few days.
This is SO MUCH MORE FUN than mailing out letters! If you haven't joined EPX180 yet but are thinking about it, now is the time!
Have a great weekend.
Friday, August 1, 2014
Reinvestment Plan: Here's the Math
Here is some more from Shelly Ferree's last email for our EPX Team. She has obviously done a little math with the customer acquisition program and it makes some sense. Here's her plan:
Here is A Reinvestment Plan- check out what we all could do
working together
Here is A Plan Of Action I Am Using To Build My EPX ONE80
1- I Am Going To Save All Of My fast start bonuses- my matrix pay matching bonuses
I am reinvesting it to put back into my paid customers- I don’t care if it is only 1 or 2 or 10
Until I Am Hitting $1000 a month
2- Then I Am Going To Reinvest $450 Every Single Month to buy 10 new customers- Just Remember when you buy new customers You Will Get $65 back in fast start bonuses and 50 cent bonuses- also remember you will earn matching bonuses for the long term
You Will Still Pocket $565 A Month profit
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When I Get to $1500 A Month Residual I Am Going To Buy 15 New Customers - That Will Be $675 To Reinvest Back In My Business- Now Remember You Will Get $97.50 back in fast start bonuses - You Will Pocket $922.50 In Profit- that is extra monthly income
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When I Get to $2000 A Month Residual- I am Going To Buy 20 New Customers A Month- That Will Be $900 To Reinvest Back into my Business- Now Remember You Will Get $130 Back In Fast Start Bonuses That Will Be $1230 In Profit
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When I Get to $2500 A Month Residual- I Am Going To Buy 25 New Customers A Month- That Will Be $1125 To Reinvest Back Into My Business- Now Remember You Will get $162.50 Back In Fast Start Bonuses That Will Be $1537.50 In Profit
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When I get $3000 A Month Residual Income- I am going To Buy 40 New Customers- That Will be $1800 To Reinvest Back Into My Business- Now Remember You Will Get $260 Back In Fast Start Bonuses That Will Be $1460 In Profit- It May Be Less Profit then at $2500 But Remember all of the 20% matching Bonuses you are building and will get off 40 new customers down the road
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When I Get to $3500 A Month Residual Income- I am going to buy 40 New customers- that will be $1800 to Reinvest Back In The Business- Now Remember You Will get $260 Back in fast start bonuses that will be $1960 profit a month
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When I Get To $4000 A Month Residual Income- I am going to buy 50 New Customers- That Will Be $2250 To Reinvest Back In my Business-Now You Will Get $325 Back In Fast Start Bonuses that will be $2075 profit a month
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When I get to $4500 A Month Residual Income- I am going to buy 50 new customers- That Will Be $2250 to reinvest back in my business- You Will Get $325 in fast start bonuses that will be $2575 profit a month
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When I get to $5 grand a month residual income- I am going to buy 50 new customers- that will be $2250 to reinvest back into my business- You Will Get $325 in fast start bonuses that will be $3075 a month
1- I Am Going To Save All Of My fast start bonuses- my matrix pay matching bonuses
I am reinvesting it to put back into my paid customers- I don’t care if it is only 1 or 2 or 10
Until I Am Hitting $1000 a month
2- Then I Am Going To Reinvest $450 Every Single Month to buy 10 new customers- Just Remember when you buy new customers You Will Get $65 back in fast start bonuses and 50 cent bonuses- also remember you will earn matching bonuses for the long term
You Will Still Pocket $565 A Month profit
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When I Get to $1500 A Month Residual I Am Going To Buy 15 New Customers - That Will Be $675 To Reinvest Back In My Business- Now Remember You Will Get $97.50 back in fast start bonuses - You Will Pocket $922.50 In Profit- that is extra monthly income
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When I Get to $2000 A Month Residual- I am Going To Buy 20 New Customers A Month- That Will Be $900 To Reinvest Back into my Business- Now Remember You Will Get $130 Back In Fast Start Bonuses That Will Be $1230 In Profit
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When I Get to $2500 A Month Residual- I Am Going To Buy 25 New Customers A Month- That Will Be $1125 To Reinvest Back Into My Business- Now Remember You Will get $162.50 Back In Fast Start Bonuses That Will Be $1537.50 In Profit
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When I get $3000 A Month Residual Income- I am going To Buy 40 New Customers- That Will be $1800 To Reinvest Back Into My Business- Now Remember You Will Get $260 Back In Fast Start Bonuses That Will Be $1460 In Profit- It May Be Less Profit then at $2500 But Remember all of the 20% matching Bonuses you are building and will get off 40 new customers down the road
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When I Get to $3500 A Month Residual Income- I am going to buy 40 New customers- that will be $1800 to Reinvest Back In The Business- Now Remember You Will get $260 Back in fast start bonuses that will be $1960 profit a month
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When I Get To $4000 A Month Residual Income- I am going to buy 50 New Customers- That Will Be $2250 To Reinvest Back In my Business-Now You Will Get $325 Back In Fast Start Bonuses that will be $2075 profit a month
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When I get to $4500 A Month Residual Income- I am going to buy 50 new customers- That Will Be $2250 to reinvest back in my business- You Will Get $325 in fast start bonuses that will be $2575 profit a month
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When I get to $5 grand a month residual income- I am going to buy 50 new customers- that will be $2250 to reinvest back into my business- You Will Get $325 in fast start bonuses that will be $3075 a month
Then After That You Will Be buying 50 new customers every single
month- If Your Team members follow the same game plan- you will be making close
to $100 000 to $500 000 a month
I know it is hard to fathom but you will receive 20% matching bonuses on every single one of the customers matrix plus if they get active you earn 10% matching Bonuses 1%-2% global pools 2% infinity matches
I know it is hard to fathom but you will receive 20% matching bonuses on every single one of the customers matrix plus if they get active you earn 10% matching Bonuses 1%-2% global pools 2% infinity matches
If You Follow This Reinvestment Program- You Can just buy
customers and don’t even have to worry about recruiting people and I guarantee when
you start earning $1000 checks just show this to friends and family they will
be joining you
EPX ONE80 Is about Working Smart Not Hard
More soon on how to achieve Step One, I'm sure. (I hope because if not, then I have to do the math and that could be... NOT pretty.) Have a fun and fabulous weekend!
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